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    Que pasa, estás histérica edroh?. jaja. Vaya a tomar la leche y luego traigame donde están las pruebas de "invasión" rusa.
    wow such maloso! toma una galletita. Espero que no me hayas reportado si te lo tomas tan tranquilo. seria muy hipocrita de tu parte.
    pruebas? vos sos o te falla? me parece que el que tiene que tomar la leche sos vos capo
    que queres que vaya a buscar las pruebas a ukrania para vos? para que cambies de parecer? no me hagas reir canpiom
    la gente no es tan estupida, es claro que rusia esta detras. aparte de no ser tan boludos no van a meterse en una guerra.
    pero bue sos vos. vivis haciendote el ******
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    que se yo, da para paja.
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    Jodánse por ratas si el único que ponía los billetes era Moltar. Creían que les iba a pagar la jodita eternamente?? Really???
    A llorar a la Iglesia.
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    wow such maloso! toma una galletita. Espero que no me hayas reportado si te lo tomas tan tranquilo. seria muy hipocrita de tu parte.
    pruebas? vos sos o te falla? me parece que el que tiene que tomar la leche sos vos capo
    que queres que vaya a buscar las pruebas a ukrania para vos? para que cambies de parecer? no me hagas reir canpiom
    la gente no es tan estupida, es claro que rusia esta detras. aparte de no ser tan boludos no van a meterse en una guerra.
    pero bue sos vos. vivis haciendote el ******
    Anda a tomar la leche . Estás muy conspiranoico. Besos.
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    Anda a tomar la leche . Estás muy conspiranoico. Besos.
    anda a jugar con los submarinos de juguete estas muy conspiranoico. besos
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    que se yo, da para paja.
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    Jodánse por ratas si el único que ponía los billetes era Moltar. Creían que les iba a pagar la jodita eternamente?? Really???
    A llorar a la Iglesia.
    Putos.

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    El otro día publicaron el reporte preliminar con así también mas fotos donde se ve claramente que el misil impacta desde arriba directo a la cabina, muchos de los misiles T-A radar hacen eso, impactan desde arriba al frente con intención de matar a los pilotos. En resumen, ATC le pidió subir a FL350 xq había un 777 atrás muy cerca, el MH17 se negó, ATC le ordeno al otro 777 subir a FL350, mas tarde el MH17 pide un desvio de 20nm por el clima y también subir a FL340, el ATC le da el ok para el desvio lo que lo termina poniendo sobre la L980 pero no para subir a FL340 por conflicto de trafico. Segundos antes del impacto el MH17 volaba sobre la ruta L980 cuando el ATC les pide que vayan directo al punto RND por conflicto de trafico, los pilotos llegan a dar el ok solo segundos antes del impacto, ocurrió en el momento que recibían instrucciones para eso.

    According to the map released by the DSB the last FDR position was at position "N48.123 E38.522".

    The DSB reported that the DSB was informed by Ukrainian's National Bureau of Air Accident Investigations (NBAAI) on Jul 18th 2014 about 06:00Z that contact with the crew of 9M-MRD had been lost at about 13:20Z on Jul 17th 2014. A signal of the ELT had been received and its location was determined. The NBAAI initiated an investigation the same day and delegated the investigation to the DSB on Jul 23rd.

    The DSB stated: "The occurrence took place over open farmland south and west of the village of Hrabove in eastern Ukraine. At the time of the occurrence an armed civil conflict was ongoing in Ukraine, between armed groups and Ukrainian armed forces. The aircraft parts came down in the area that was under control of the armed groups. Coordinated access to the wreckage site by the international team of air safety investigators has not yet been possible. It is the intention of the Dutch Safety Board to visit the site whenever it is possible to safely conduct further investigation of the wreckage. However, investigators of the NBAAI made a number of short visits to the site between 19 July 2014 and 21 July 2014, and took photographs of items of wreckage. These photographs were made available to the investigation team. The investigator-in-charge (IIC) of the Dutch Safety Board investigation also received photographs and a report from the Malaysian investigation team, regarding the team’s onsite investigation. That investigation was carried out on their own initiative between 22 July 2014 and 24 July 2014. The information received is used in this Dutch Safety Board investigation."

    The DSB reported that the flight was planned to enter Ukrainian Airspace at FL330 and climb to FL350 crossing waypoint PEKIT at FL350. Dnipropetrovsk (Dnipro) Control therefore checked with the crew of MH-17 whether they were able to climb to FL350 with the intention to also clear a possible conflict with another Boeing 777 at FL330 closing up from behind, the crew replied they were unable to climb FL350, ATC therefore had the other traffic climb to FL350.

    At 13:00Z the crew of MH-17 requested to divert 20nm to the left due to weather, which was granted by Dnipro Control. The crew subsequently requested to climb to FL340, which was not granted by Dnipro Control due to conflicting traffic.

    At 13:19:53Z the aircraft was 3.6nm north of the centerline of airway L980 having deviated to the left when Dnipro Control instructed the aircraft to proceed direct to waypoint RND due to traffic. At 13:19:56Z the crew acknowledged that instruction, at 13:20:00Z Dnipro Control radioed additional instructions but did not receive any reply, the radio transmission had started at 13:20:00Z and ended at 13:20:05Z and contained the clearance to proceed direct to TIKNA after passing RND.

    Both black boxes stopped recording at 13:20:03z. No distress message was transmitted.

    Due to hostilities between armed groups the airspace over the southern part of Dnipropetrovsk FIR had been restricted at and below FL320 (in the Dutch version of the report the DSB states that the actual reason for the restriction was the shoot down of an Antonov AN-24 at FL210 on July 14th, that sentence missing in the English translation of the report by error). The DSB stated: "At the time of the occurrence, flight MH17 was flying at FL330 in unrestricted airspace above the restricted area mentioned by the latest NOTAM."

    The DSB reported: "The flight recorders were not recovered from the wreckage site by investigators of the Annex 13 investigation team, but individuals unknown to the team took them from the site. On 21 July 2014, the recorders were handed over to a Malaysian official in Donetsk by representatives of the armed group controlling the area. The recorders were transported by train from Donetsk to Kharkiv in custody of a Malaysian official and accompanied by Dutch officials and then transported to Kiev also in custody of a Malaysian official and accompanied by Dutch and ICAO officials. In Kiev the recorders were handed over to the Dutch Safety Board on 22 July 2014. Immediately after the handover to the Dutch Safety Board, the recorders were transported to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch’s laboratory at Farnborough, United Kingdom, accompanied by an international team of air safety investigators from Germany, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Ukraine, the United Kingdom, the United States of America and representatives of ICAO. At Farnborough a French investigator joined the team whereupon the work to download the data of both recorders was started. Later on an air safety investigator of the Interstate Aviation Committee also joined the team. No evidence or indications of manipulation of the recorders were found."

    The DSB described the cockpit voice recorder: "The housing of the CVR (figure 4) had been damaged and, although the model and serial numbers were unreadable on the data plate, the serial number 1366 - matching the one provided by Malaysia Airlines - was found stamped on the underside of the chassis. The external damage found on the CVR is consistent with impact damage, the internal memory module was intact. The recording capacity of this recorder is 30 minutes. The full 30 minutes were successfully downloaded and contained valid data from the flight."

    The DSB summarized the recordings of the cockpit voice recorder: "No aural warnings or alerts of aircraft system malfunctions were heard on the cockpit voice recording, which ended at 13.20:03 hrs. Crew communication gave no indication that there was anything abnormal with the flight." and stated that detailed analysis of the CVR is still ongoing. The CVR recordings matched the ATC recordings.

    With respect to the flight data recorder the DSB reported: "The label on the housing of the FDR (figure 5) showed that it was Allied Signal Model Number 980-4700-003 with Serial Number 2196. These details matched the details provided by Malaysia Airlines. The recorder was found damaged but the internal memory module was intact. The external damage found on the FDR was consistent with impact damage. The FDR, which can record 25 hours of operational data, was successfully downloaded and contained valid data from the occurrence flight. Downloaded data from the flight was decoded using multiple software tools from different manufacturers. The data is consistent with other recorded information regarding the flight of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. Furthermore the unique ICAO 24-bit aircraft address issued by the State of Registry (Malaysia) matched the recorded ICAO 24-bit aircraft address code on the FDR. The State of Registry registered the aircraft with this code as 9M-MRD."

    The FDR recordings were summarized by the DSB: "The data on the Flight Data Recorder indicated that the aircraft was flying at FL330, on a constant displayed heading of 115° and at a constant speed of 293 kts computed airspeed (groundspeed 494 kts, equals 915 kilometres per hour). According to the data on the FDR, both engines were running at cruise power. All indications regarding the operation of the engines were normal. No aircraft system warnings or cautions were detected. The data stopped abruptly at 13.20:03 hrs."

    In short the DSB summarized the findings at the debris field: "The pattern of damage observed in the forward fuselage and cockpit section of the aircraft was consistent with the damage that would be expected from a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside." and "The fact that there were many pieces of aircraft structure distributed over a large area indicated that the aircraft broke up in the air."
    corte unas partes para que entre en el foro, informe completo aqui



    foto parte del techo de la cabina


    parte del píso de la cabina


    mapa


    Lo unico que no me queda del todo claro es quien era el conflicto a FL330 para que le ordenaran ir directo a RND, el 777 de abajo no creo
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