Int: They frequently saw them and then they told me, and I’m positive that there
was three (3) crashes. That was actually told me about three (3) different
Jim: So as of 1952 they knew about three (3) crashes?
Int: Right. Right.
Jim: Of vehicles that were probably extraterrestrial?
Int: Right, right, and then the one where they brought the two (2) men into Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base and put them in the ice box...
Int: He called them little green men. He described them as a greenish-blue.
And they were four (4) feet tall and they were dead.
Jim: So the color could have been because they were dead?
Int: Yeah, but you see it could have been anything.
Jim: We’re talking about non-humans?
Int: Non-humans. Right.
Int: All even and I said “what is it?’ He said, “it’s a piece of a space ship.”
When I, you know got through with it and I couldn’t do nothing with it I said,
“well, what is it?” And he says, “piece of a space ship.” He said “I just
came back from New Mexico and I brought it back with me.” See, he had
no business having anything to do with it in the first place, but he...
Jim: So he was breaking security?
Int: Yes, he was. Definitely.
Jim: You mentioned three (3) crashes earlier.
Int: Yeah, there’s three (3) there was three (3) times that I am aware of, I won’t
vouch for the fourth (4) one cause I wouldn’t...
Jim: These three (3) crashes that you heard about while you worked at Wright-
Int: One (1) was the Roswell, and then there was two (2) others.