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  1. Avatar de mauro-
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    aca lo q interesa ahora es quien se quedara con artest, si los timberwolves, los warriors, o los nuggets. si bien parece q se lo lleva gs, para mi estan dando muchio (uno de los 2 pibes q son buenos, no me salen los nombres ahora , una primera seleccion, y otro jugador mas) pero vale la pena el "riesgo" supongo
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    de aca a 50 años, va a ser una materia importante de las escuelas, eso dalo por hecho..

    empezando por programacion de la television y otros artefactos

    sin ir mas lejos yo tengo una tele que tenes que ser jodido hacker para entenderla, tiene mas opciones que un windows server.

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    q bien q le vendria a los wolves ese jugador por dios, justo ahora que la mayoria de las estrellas que tenia lo dejaron en banda despues de no clasificar la temporada pasada
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    artest es un quilombero , na pone los re huevos le vendria de 10 a los nuggets

    a q hora es Minnsesota vs San Antonio ?? lo televisan?
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    si, lo que no me acuerdo es si es en espn+ o espn comun, pero es a las 10

    siempre los viernes a las 10 pasan un partido
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    Citar Mensaje original enviado por mauro :D
    aca lo q interesa ahora es quien se quedara con artest, si los timberwolves, los warriors, o los nuggets. si bien parece q se lo lleva gs, para mi estan dando muchio (uno de los 2 pibes q son buenos, no me salen los nombres ahora , una primera seleccion, y otro jugador mas) pero vale la pena el "riesgo" supongo
    saludos
    sera biedrins?o murphy? cual es?
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    La volpe no puede ir a otro lado que a la concha de su madre, por favor

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    bue, parece que les clausuraron una platea y a velez no los dejan ir de visitante por un par de fechas... es mas o menos como si les hubieran prohibido a ustedes ganar una libertadores
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    pd: no soy gay.

  6. Avatar de mauro-
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    see eran 2 de los rookies q tienen, biedrins es uno (segun lo q lei, es MUY parecido a artest, ademas q les gusta mucho a los de gs) y el otro q no me acuerdo


    anyways, un interesante "articulo" sobre los pistons y el anillo
    With the Detroit Pistons on pace to win 71 games this season and become the second team ever to reach the 70-win mark, we asked a dozen ESPN analysts to weigh in on the key questions: Can the Pistons win 70? Should they try to win 70? How many will they win? And who will win it all?

    1. Are the Pistons capable of winning 70 games?

    Chris Broussard, ESPN The Magazine: No. Over the course of an 82-game schedule, there are bound to be nights when the team just doesn't have it. On those nights, you need a superstar who can carry you with his sheer greatness. The Bulls of '96 had MJ. The Sixers of '67 (68-13) had Wilt. These Pistons don't have that superstar. Also, they are winning with offense, not defense and rebounding. Offense will abandon them some nights, and some of those nights will end up as L's.

    Ric Bucher, ESPN The Magazine: They're certainly capable, but it's going to require coach Flip Saunders to play his starters longer minutes or dinged-up players fighting through injury even after they have the best record in the Eastern Conference sewed up. A lot of it depends on how hard the Spurs push them for the best overall record. The Pistons want home-court advantage because that may have been the difference in last year's Finals. The Spurs, traditionally, have not placed that much importance on it.

    John Carroll, Scouts Inc.: They are capable, but in looking at their schedule over the last 53 games, I predict they will not. They have 27 home and 26 away. In those 53 games, they have 12 back-to-back games.

    Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: Absolutely. They have the most complete starting five in the NBA. There isn't a team in the league that they don't match up with. Flip Saunders has proven that this group can light it up offensively. And if their shots aren't falling, the Pistons still know how to ramp it up on the defensive end.

    John Hollinger, ESPN Insider: I don't think so. To win 70 games normally requires a victory margin in the plus-10 range. The Pistons, as well as they have played, are at plus-7.8 right now. Even if they stayed healthy and played at the same level, they'd have to get extremely lucky in close games.

    Scoop Jackson, Page 2: No. The only reason is because their focus will change. With four losses already, they're on pace to have eight by March 1. Come April, they'll be in playoff mode mentally, not concerned about chasing records or winning 70. Remember, the Bulls at one time were 41-3. They were on pace for 77 wins. Their focus shifted. That's why they only won 72.

    Tim Legler, ESPN Insider: I don't think the Pistons will win 70 games because the bottom half of the NBA is much better than in recent years and it is more difficult to just show up on any given night and get a win. The Pistons also have a thin bench and eventually their string of good health in that starting lineup is bound to come to an end. I don't think they can get 70 if any of their starters goes down for an extended period of time.

    Jim O'Brien, ESPN Insider: No. Going 45-8 over the rest of the season is too big a task. They have some tough road games with the likes of San Antonio, Miami twice, Indiana, New Jersey and Cleveland (which already beat them in Cleveland) among others. They might approach the magic number, but as soon as they secure home-court advantage for the entire playoffs, they will probably back off some, even if it is not intended.

    Will Perdue, ESPN Insider: Yes, but they hope they do not have to. This team's starters play a lot of minutes.


    Chris Sheridan, ESPN Insider: Yes, they're capable, but their loss in Utah was an example of the type of game -- their third in four nights -- that the Pistons will need to routinely win to reach 70. The 1995-96 Bulls opened 12-0 and finished 24-4 playing their third in four nights. Detroit will do it 25 times, including eight straight on the road in February and March.

    Ken Shouler, ESPN Insider: The Pistons are surely capable. They have the best differential in the league (plus-7.8), more than a point ahead of San Antonio's. But they need one non-statistical factor to fall their way: good health. The five teams that have won 68 or more games (the 1967 Sixers, the 1972 Lakers, the 1973 Celtics, and the 1996 and '97 Bulls) played out the regular season without injuries to their key players. The Celtics were the only one that failed to win the title. Why? Possibly because John Havlicek separated his shoulder in the Eastern Conference finals against New York.

    Marc Stein, ESPN.com: Capable? Definitely. Look at the competition. Who else besides San Antonio is playing at an elite level right now? Neither conference is teeming with top teams at the moment.

    2. Should the Pistons try to win 70 games?

    Broussard: Yes. I don't think it should be a priority, but if they have a chance, they should push for it. That would place them in immortality, especially if they go on to win the title. The Sixers of '67 are remembered for winning 68 games, not just for the title. If they hadn't won 68, they would've been lost in the middle of all those Boston championships. The Bulls of '96 have to be regarded as the best team ever -- though they probably aren't -- simply because they won 72 games and the championship. If the Pistons win 73 and a title, going through Shaq and Duncan, their place in history would be very, very high.

    Bucher: "Try"? Absolutely not. It doesn't break the Bulls' record and it leaves them open to second-guessing should they not win the championship. They should aim to have the best record in the league, because it's worth home-court advantage throughout the playoffs. Winning 70 is meaningless beyond that.

    Carroll: Similar to the Colts in the NFL, the goal is to win the championship in the postseason. Going undefeated in the regular season in football or winning 70 games in basketball is not the goal. If it were to happen while resting players to get ready for the playoffs, then that is OK. Trying to get 70 at the expense of your team being fresh for the postseason is silly.

    Ford: I don't think so. The Pistons aren't playing for the regular-season records. They want to win a title. The Pistons' one weakness is depth. A major injury to any of their starting five would dramatically change their chances of winning it all in June. I would let up on the gas a little, get some of the younger Pistons some experience in the right situations and not sweat a loss here or there. As long as they get home-court advantage, nothing else should matter.

    Hollinger: No, if they get home-court advantage locked up they should take it easy and rest their starters. These guys have played a huge number of minutes the past three seasons, especially once you include playoffs, and Flip needs them fresh for the postseason.

    Jackson: Yes. I think they should try to win 70, just to have some type of mental or psychological advantage over San Antonio if/when they meet in the Finals. Like, "Yeah, you all have the ring, but we got 70 this year. We're the team this year, this is our year!"

    Legler: The decision on whether to go for 70 wins won't be addressed until much later in the season. For now, Flip Saunders has this team focused on putting as much distance between themselves and the surging Miami Heat for the top seed in the East. Eventually, decisions will have to be made regarding how much to play the starters if the East is wrapped up. If you have a chance at history, you should take it.

    O'Brien: If San Antonio or Dallas keeps the pressure on Detroit in the race for home-court advantage it will give the Pistons added incentive to win. If the advantage is secured fairly early, Saunders will make sure his starters are rested and healthy for the long pull of the championship run. In the latter case, 70 wins becomes somewhat irrelevant.

    Perdue: Trying to win 70 would tax these guys and have an effect on how they play in the playoffs. This team wants to accomplish three things: (1) Win the Central division. (2) Have the best record in the Eastern Conference. (3) Have the best record in the NBA. Last season, San Antonio won Game 7 of the Finals on it's home court. If the Pistons need to win 70 games to accomplish these goals, they should try. But only if it's necessary.

    Sheridan: They should try to win 73 to break the Bulls' record, setting their sights as high as possible.

    Shouler: Yes. Chances to make history don't come along every day. By removing Kobe Bryant after three quarters, Phil Jackson stopped him from possibly scoring 80-85 points, for the second-highest total ever. His decision robbed us of a chance to see history. If Detroit wins 70, that would also be the second-highest total ever.

    Stein: The problem is you can't try not to win games. But it shouldn't be their goal … and I'm pretty sure it isn't. After losing Game 7 of the Finals in San Antonio, all these guys care about is posting the best overall record in the league and securing the home-court advantage throughout the playoffs that goes with it. If they win 70 games in the process, call it historical icing.

    3. How many games will the Pistons win this season?
    Broussard: 65
    Bucher: 67
    Carroll: 64
    Ford: 70
    Hollinger: 61
    Jackson: 68
    Legler: 64-67
    O'Brien: 68
    Perdue: 64
    Sheridan: 66
    Shouler: 67
    Stein: 66

    4. Who will win the Eastern Conference title?
    Broussard: Pistons
    Bucher: Pistons
    Carroll: Pistons
    Ford: Pistons
    Hollinger: Pistons
    Jackson: Pistons
    Legler: Pistons
    O'Brien: Pistons
    Perdue: Pistons
    Shouler: Pistons
    Sheridan: Pistons
    Stein: Pistons

    5. Who will win the NBA title?
    Broussard: Pistons
    Bucher: Spurs
    Carroll: Spurs
    Ford: Pistons
    Hollinger: Pistons
    Jackson: Spurs
    Legler: Spurs
    O'Brien: Spurs
    Perdue: Spurs
    Sheridan: Spurs
    Shouler: Pistons
    Stein: Spurs
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    de aca a 50 años, va a ser una materia importante de las escuelas, eso dalo por hecho..

    empezando por programacion de la television y otros artefactos

    sin ir mas lejos yo tengo una tele que tenes que ser jodido hacker para entenderla, tiene mas opciones que un windows server.

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    GAno San Antonio
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    ginno hasta que me valla a dormir te odio con todo mi corazon, ojala que te parta un rayo narigon hijo de remil puta!!! i hate ur ass!!! [/wolvesfan]

    bueno fue un buen partido almenos, demasiado parejo, en verdad no se que mierda estaba mirando el arbitro cuando le cobro la quinta falta a kgarnet... pero bueno, duele la localia.
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    ok no lo conosco a nadie de aca pero a alguien se lo tengo q contar :S

    hoy soñe con q me ganaba un viaje o algo asi, pero q me iba a estados unidos y me iba como a pasar un tiempo (no se, una semana o un mes) con el manu ginobili, y me invitaba a la casa, y soñaba q el manu le pedia una moto del año del orto a su representante, y el representante le consigue una pero no funcionaba entoncs le consigue otra bastante vieja, y me dice "probala" o algo asi y yo me subo y me pongo a andar ( :S! ), y entonces a la noche se pone con una limosina y vamos no tengo idea por donde y creo q caemos como en un bolichongo y yo me pongo a hacer el pija diciendo "mira yo soy amigo(!) de manu ginobili" y decia como q algunas veces me invitaba a la casa


    jajajajajjaja suena re tocadisco, jajajajajja
    saludos

    edit: bueno volviendo a la realidad, aca hay un par de citas sobre el tema de artest
    "Of course, the main speculation involves a package featuring Troy Murphy for Artest, which would be a steal for the Warriors. But Dan Fegan, the agent for Murphy, said Thursday that Mullin assured him Murphy would not be included in any trade for Artest, which sounds right to me since Murphy's long-term deal is a major complication."

    "Any trade is more likely to include Ike Diogu and/or Mickael Pietrus. I believe Mullin is loath to trade multiple young players without filling his main need in the low post. Yes, Artest would be a major plus for this team if he could be controlled, and I'm fairly sure that Montgomery couldn't do it."

    "In another development, Miller has been mentioned several times as trade bait in a national report. A team insider denied the Grizzlies were shopping Miller but acknowledged that teams often ask for Miller to be included in deals. Recent Internet speculation had the Griz getting involved in a five-team "Ron Artest" deal that would send Miller to Indiana with Denver receiving Artest and the Griz picking up Earl Watson, Bryon Russell and Samaki Walker."
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    de aca a 50 años, va a ser una materia importante de las escuelas, eso dalo por hecho..

    empezando por programacion de la television y otros artefactos

    sin ir mas lejos yo tengo una tele que tenes que ser jodido hacker para entenderla, tiene mas opciones que un windows server.

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    solta las pastillas (o lo q sea q te haga alucinar) =D, va con onda
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    go away damn freak!!

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    ginno hasta que me valla a dormir te odio con todo mi corazon, ojala que te parta un rayo narigon hijo de remil puta!!! i hate ur ass!!! [/wolvesfan]

    bueno fue un buen partido almenos, demasiado parejo, en verdad no se que mierda estaba mirando el arbitro cuando le cobro la quinta falta a kgarnet... pero bueno, duele la localia.
    te kb!!! ^_^

    a mi me da pena por garnett q juega muy solo
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    si, aun asi garnett sabe donde esta jugando y sigue firmando con minessota, supongo q es amor a la camiseta, yo de pendejo mi hice de los wolves porq lo admiro al tipo ese.

    la verdad que es un fierro de jugador, y no deja de demostrar como persona, ahora que podria jugar en cualquier equipo firmo contrato con los wolves para terminar hasta el fin de su carrera en ese equipo...
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    todavia le quedan 4 años contando esta temporada
    pero si la proxima dice q quiere cambiar de equipo ya mismo si fuese los de sas hago la gran finley + van exel + horry + udrih por garnett
    total q lo haga el presidente y pop se ahorra de quedar como garca
    saludos

    todo esto si ganan este campeonato no.
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    de aca a 50 años, va a ser una materia importante de las escuelas, eso dalo por hecho..

    empezando por programacion de la television y otros artefactos

    sin ir mas lejos yo tengo una tele que tenes que ser jodido hacker para entenderla, tiene mas opciones que un windows server.

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    Citar Mensaje original enviado por mauro :D
    todavia le quedan 4 años contando esta temporada
    pero si la proxima dice q quiere cambiar de equipo ya mismo si fuese los de sas hago la gran finley + van exel + horry + udrih por garnett
    total q lo haga el presidente y pop se ahorra de quedar como garca
    saludos

    todo esto si ganan este campeonato no.
    teniendo a duncan para que queres a garnett??
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    Por sobre todos
    Bulls
    Jordan

    Despues admiro teams como los spurs y los sonics y jugadores como R.Miller C.Barkley y Rodman (Rodman un groso siempre me identifique con su juego en la cancha)
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